How Firefighters Feel About Work Dominated by EMS Calls

By Mintra Mattison

 

For this survey, we asked for the input of our fire/rescue athletes regarding the prominence and implications of EMS requirements within fire departments nationwide. We received some great feedback we want to share with you.

In addition to our survey we received some interesting feedback through our MTI Facebook Page as well – these comments will follow after the answers to our survey.

The challenges are significant as fire departments nationwide move forward and the EMS responsibilities grow. We appreciate the discussion you have provided and hope it will generate new ideas to make fire departments as efficient and safe for those in the profession.

Thank you to all those who responded to the survey! Below are the respondents’ answers to our survey.

 

Question 1: As a Firefighter, did you notice the increased EMS calls in your fire department? 

13 answered with "Yes"
2 answered with "No"

 

Question 2: If your answer was ‘YES’: How do you personally feel about this shift?

"I think that as fires become less common due to building materials, techniques, etc. it is a reality we have to adjust to. Personally, I think EMS and firefighting should be separate.  I think you should be able to both or just one or the other.  Seeing an infant code and eventually die when I was not on the ambulance due to lack of paramedics on the ambulance in a city I worked has influenced my thinking greatly.  The need for firefighters is down and it seems most organizations use EMS to boost their budget--especially in the good old boy system that persists. Quality city EMS organizations should exist and work with fire and law enforcement and in some instances be able to cross train but not required to do so.  Requiring ff/medics can really hurt morale and patient care if they don't want to be a medic."
"I'm here to serve. You call, we haul."
"I've been in for 8 years and as a medic I notice a sharp increase in the calls. I don't mind the actual emergencies, but the run of the mill calls (stomach flu, headaches, stubbed toe) are frustrating."
"It's just part of the job.  It's no secret to any firefighter on the job that fires are down.   We don't like it but what can you do."
"It's our bread and butter.  When I was hired (1986) my dept ran 5000 calls a year. Last year, 16 k.  75% were EMS.  I have been a work fire medic all that time.  What has really changed is how we have become integrated into the care of the mentally ill and the homeless."
"I would say that I take whatever the job dishes out. Personally I would like to be able to fight more fires, but it also shows how better our fire prevention and building construction is."
"I don't like it!"
"It sucks, but it’s better than being fired because I'm not relevant.  Fire departments that deal exclusively with fire are outdated because of modern building codes and materials. That is why separate fire, medical, and rescue services have merged into the field of "emergency services."  In all sincerity, the “fire-only” services could easily be replaced with volunteers for how little it is used.  I’d rather do EMS calls than be unemployed."
"We are no longer a emergency service, but have become a social band-aide for a collapsing health care system."
"Would prefer more fires but happy to have a career"
"Much less excitement about calls. Picking up grandma off the floor or taking care of someone with the flu isn't near as fun as even the possibility of fighting fire."
"Annoyed - overdoses and 'Cab-ulance' calls (missed appointments, feeling sick, intoxicated bums) dominate our ems calls - not just a culture of shifting from fire to ems, but also from real emergencies to acting as a taxicab. (I work in a full time urban dept, population approx 40k, w approx 12k runs/yr, 10k of which are ems)."
"I am also a paramedic, therefore I feel just fine about responding to more EMS calls.  Ours is a service job, therefore we should always been trying to provide high quality services the public chooses to fund with their tax dollars, not just the service (singular) we want to provide"

 

Question 3: In your opinion, what kind of impact on the fire department culture does the increase of EMS calls have?

"The increased call volume has led to decreased quality of patient care, burnout, and a lot more call volume on those who are medics.  I'm short there needs to be more medics who want to be there....having some dedicated EMS personnel as well as dual ff/medics would be a step in the right direction."
"Those poor truckies have to get up more often to chase the medic unit."
"It can create animosity between people that are interested in suppression as their main job function. From a "front office" perspective, it improves the scope of care we provide."
"Less experienced firefighters.  No longer can you learn "on the job" by catching so many fires."
"Just really busy!  We also see some grim stuff...80 firefighters killed themselves last year.  Related? My feeling is yes..."
"I believe that the more less important EMS calls, people that don't to call 911 but they do anyways. That hurts the fire service, because you run on more of those then the serious calls. Some firefights get burnt out or care less because of those calls."
"Decreases moral."
"The culture is becoming increasingly educated.  It is impossible to be promoted without having a paramedic certification.  All of the existing supervisors in my department (myself included) have until 2018 to earn their certification or they will be terminated.  One captain with 26 years on the job recently retired and was replaced by a greenhorn of medic school simply because he was a medic.  (This isn't conjecture; the chief stated as much.)"
"It impacts us by being more medically focused. However, the tradition of firefighting is so in grained in the culture that it is a constant battle of people wanting to not give up an important past time value that they associate more with the identity of being a Firefighter. EMS despite being the more important is often seen as "More work" or "Less glamorous". "
"It does have separation in my department.fire fighter  Paramedics are looked to as weak fire fighters because we don't get as much "fire side" as firefighter emt. Being a weak emt doesn't matter. It is looked at as a skill you don't need."
"Definitely has lowered morale among the older firefighters. The younger firefighters don't know much of a difference."
"Decrease in positive attitude we have towards our constituents."
"A poorly led and managed shift will see an increase in complacency with an associated negative attitude about 'being busy.'   A well led shift will see each call for service as an opportunity to do their job and interact with the public who pays their salaries and provides their equipment and training."

 

Question 4: Did you see a change in recruits, as a result to more EMS calls?

"Yes.  Almost all recruits now have their advanced EMT and a few years EMS experience before making it to rookie school.  Additionally, we ALL have to be AEMT certified at the least.  This involves a lot more than EMT-B and is much more medically focused."
"Yes, NREMT-P certified recruits are now preferred."
"They get in the academy, fresh faced and ready to save lives. About 18 months in at a busy, low-income area filled with nursing homes, they hit a wall, realizing they largely act as social workers and "you call, we haul" transport providers. The lack of sleep and repeat customers (frequent fliers) affect a provider. In addition to that, there's a definite uptick in diabetes, alcohol abuse, opiate overdoses, and calls related to other poor choices in lifestyle."
"No"
"Yes.  Our dept only hires paramedics. To our detriment.  We are missing out on tradesmen, ex military and wild land firefighters.  Historically our best recruits."
"Yes. The fire service is requiring more EMS training and that requirement provides less time for fire training."
"Haven't really noticed."
"Most of the applicants already have an ALS certification of some sort.  The department offers free FF/EMT certification classes to its applicants, but many people showing up only need the firefighter classes."
"We hire more paramedics- which is good- but some already favor EMS vs. the traditional structural firefighter."
"The new rescurits were not employed with more a EMS role so this there is no change."
"I can't say for sure. But I will say in my Fire Department that we have people that have been struggling to advance their EMS credentials because of this and it's hard because some Dept.'s are plagued by bureaucracy or the "Good ole'boys system" therefore making the journey to paramedic feel like a roll of the dice. "
"No my department does not care. As long as they are of the right sex or race you are hired"
"Not really. It has been a slow change and we do a good job of telling guys coming in that the bulk of the job is EMS."
"No"
"Not really.  Many of the recruits understand the changing role of the fire service in America.  It's the veteran firefighters who struggle the most with the changes.  The recruits haven't yet been imprinted with the culture of the organization.  They can be brought up to believe all calls, EMS and fire, are an opportunity to serve to public. "

 

Facebook Comments

"As firefighters, we like to think of our selves as such but depending on your jurisdiction and area you may be running more that 80% medical calls (including etoh patients). Me, personally, I know we don't burn as much as some cities, but when we do I want to be ready. I train hard and condition hard. I enjoy training so it's not a chore. If you are looking for a fire job, you'll need to be a medic or look for depts that don't transport. Even the big cities are transporting. Avoiding EMS is seemingly more and more difficult."
"To me it looks fire departments were more or less a victim of their own success and they had to "branch out" into EMS or else face cut-backs. 
My perception is a lot of firefighters absolutely hate doing EMS calls and only get those certs out of dire necessity. Probably this isn't the optimal situation of your goal is to offer high quality EMS."
"I've found that cross-trained members are usually much more fond of one side of the coin and see the other as a necessity. 
For me, maintaining an EMS certification is a necessity that is rather be without. My preference is fighting fire. I find EMS runs to be mostly monotonous and draining; a feeling which has been ramped up due to the opioid epidemic we've faced over the last couple of years. 
I've also witnessed the art of firemanship dwindle in many due to the burden placed on training, CE, and call volume that result from and relate to EMS."
"We have fire medics who genuinely care about patient care aspect, and we have some who couldnt care less about the patient care aspect and see that as a nuisance. Im sure the department I work with and around is not the exception to this. Im just a paramedic, I couldnt care much less about fighting fire for the most part, except thats where the money is. I'll do it, and Ill make sure Im good at it, but its not where my heart is."
"Fire department is totally the wrong name for what we do. It's the Fire/EMS/Rescue/HazMat/FireSafetyCodeEnforcement/Inspection/Any emergency you need help with that isn't pure law enforcement Department. And we do it with professionalism and pride. Period. 
In ten years we can probably add a few more things in there too as well. May non-law enforcement emergency services is a better title."

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Quiet Professional: The Difference Between “Experience” and “Wisdom”

No one owes you anything. You are not special. Life is not fair. The universe is immense and time infinite and you are simply, insignificant. So let … it… go.

 

By Rob Shaul

We all know senior citizens – folks in their 70’s or older – who are bitter, impatient, angry, petty, unhappy … just plain miserable.

You don’t want to end up like that.

The difference between being miserable at 70, and content at 70, is wisdom. But wisdom isn’t experienced; it doesn’t just happen.

Everyone has “experience.” Not everyone has “wisdom.”

Wisdom takes work. Here is an initial “to do” list:

1) Learn from your mistakes. This takes uncomfortable reflection, clear-eyed self-examination, acknowledgment of responsibility, and perhaps, some penance. Even harder … an acted-on commitment to do it differently, next time.

2) Forgive. Others first – so much energy is wasted on meaningless slights … and yourself, second. Forgive not only of the wrongs you’ve done to others, the big mistakes you’ve made, but also those decisions which were followed by deep regret. Regret is wasted spirit. Forgive yourself, and move on.

3) Embrace death. Not only the final lights out, but also the diminished capacity that comes before. Fully accepting your aging and mortality will crystalize that time is precious, and cause you to spend what you have on the truly important commitments and relationships. It will help you do the most difficult of all things – truly live in the present and count your blessings.

4) Be tolerant. Artificial hang-ups about people, places, culture, change, whatever, crumble under the scrutiny of wisdom. The wisest amongst us are also the most tolerant, most resilient and most adaptable. They understand what is important – and minor differences amongst us, aren’t.

5) Detach from expectations. Living based on what others think or expect is an artificial burden. Shed it, and spend your limited time in the way you feel is most beneficial to yourself and others.

6) Be humble. You are not owed anything. You’re not special. Life is not fair. The universe is immense and time infinite and you are simply, insignificant. So let … it … go. Roll up your sleeves, brighten your smile, do your job, be responsible and live your life.

Humility and humor are brothers, and together offer a path to solace.

On humility …. I’m not sure which comes first … the hard life lessons which squeeze it out of you, or the wisdom which hopefully evolves and teaches you that you’re nothing special, thus making you humble.

Regardless, humor lubricates the process. For whatever reason, everything in life is hard, and at some point, you’ll find you can’t help but smile at difficulty’s arrival, rather than be surprised and upset.

Ultimately the spiritual weight of self-righteousness begins to lift, making room for solace to elbow in.

This doesn’t happen overnight. It’s not like one day you wake up humble and smiling all the time and experiencing a zen-like serenity.  This certainly hasn’t been my experience.

I’m ashamed of the hissy fits I still throw over little shit. Too often humor is overpowered by petty anger and disappointment. I have much work to do.

But I’m able to laugh at myself and smile at life’s issues more and more all the time. Life isn’t any easier, but is more enriching, because of it.

Questions/Feedback? Email rob@mtntactical.com

 

 


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Packet Focus: Push Up Improvement Packet

By Charles Bausman

We are consistently asked how to improve Push Up performance from tactical athletes. Push Ups are included in nearly all tactical physical assessments, and it’s a solid method of determining an athlete’s upper-body muscular endurance.

The Push Up Improvement Packet provides three different progressions which focus solely on improving push up performance on a 2-minute max push up effort test.

These plans can be used in conjunction with other training, or as a stand alone program. We’ve tested each method with our Tactical Lab Rats, and all have proven to improve push up performance. Check out the links below to see our Push Up improvement studies.

All plans automatically scale to the individual athlete’s Push Up fitness, making it an easily implemented program for small-units group training or for the individual.

With this packet, you get access to all three plans – you can pick any one to start with.

Why did we include 3 plans? Despite all our study, testing and research, we simply have not found one push up programming methodology that sticks out as the best for every athlete. Further, we’ve found that what worked well for an individual athlete one time, may not work as well the next time. So in this packet we’ve included 3 plans – each which deploys a push up programming methodology we’ve had success with over the past decade of programming.

 

PACKET DETAILS

This packet includes three 6-week training plans, each of which deploys a different push up improvement programming methodology.

One common characteristic of each of these plans, however, is each is assessment-based. Athletes will complete a push up assessment at the beginning, middle and end of each plan. In this way each plan automatically “scales” to the individual athlete’s incoming push up performance and continues to push the athlete as his/her push up fitness improves.

 

PUSH UP IMPROVEMENT – HYBRID
This plan uses an assessment and percentage based density format for push ups 2x/week, as well as a muscular endurance based Bench Press progression to compliment and improve push up performance. The athlete will assess max push-ups and 1RM Bench Press 3x (beginning, middle, end) in this six-week cycle, training 4x/week. Are your max push ups less than 20 reps? Start with this plan.

PUSH UP IMPROVEMENT – DENSITY
The density progression is our most implemented method for improving push up performance in tactical physical fitness tests. The progressions utilize percentages of the athlete’s 2-minute max push up effort on a running clock in order to automatically scale to the athlete’s level of fitness. A single training session only takes 8 minutes and has proven to be an effective method of improving push ups for the Lab Rats. The athlete will assess max push ups 3x (beginning, middle, end) in this cycle, and train 4x/week in this 6-week plan. Crunched for time? Start with this plan.

PUSH UP IMPROVEMENT – VOLUME
The volume progression employs a much higher total number of push-ups conducted on a weekly basis compared to the other two plans. Similar to the Density and Hybrid progressions, the athlete will conduct a 2-minute max push up assessment 3x (beginning, middle, end) during the 6-week plan. Due to the high volume, the athlete will only train push up’s 3x/week in this plan. Hit a plateau in your push up results? Start with this plan

See chart below for further details.

COMMON QUESTIONS

Do I get access to all 3 plans with this packet purchase?
Yes

How long do the training sessions last?
15-30 minutes. Each training session includes a short warm up, and a single push up progression circuit based on your most recent assessment results. These are not total-body strength and conditioning programs – but rather are laser focused on push up improvement.

Can I complete these plans in conjunction with other training?
Yes – just be smart. Replace the upper body pressing and push up work in another program with the push progressions in this program. Don’t double up.

Can I complete all 3 Training Plans? If so, what order?
Yes – just not at the same time! Complete one plan at a time in the following order: Hybrid, Density, Volume.

Can I see sample training?
Yes – click the “Sample Training” tab above to see training sessions from each plan.

What if I have more questions?
Email coach@mtntactical.com

 

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Mini Study Results: Improving Heavy Rucking and Upper Body Pulling Strength in Females

 

By Jaimie Cunningham

In a previous article, I discussed the background research and theory that led to the development of this study.  The study recently concluded.

Study background, design and results are below:    

 

BACKGROUND

Females are entering combat roles as well as attending military schools and selections that were previously open only to males.  During these courses and selections, such as Ranger School and the Marine Infantry Officer Course, common problem areas for females include upper body pulling strength and heavy rucking. 

We found no previous studies which researched the best ways to specifically prepare females for the fitness demands of these combat-related military schools and selections. 

The purpose of this study was to test the effects of two different fitness programming protocols on females and compare the resulting improvements in rucking and upper body pulling strength improvements.   

 

STUDY DESIGN

Participants: 

Fifty-nine females initially signed up to participate. Of those thirteen completed the assessment and full study. Of these 13, one participant’s data was not included in the results analysis due to an injury prior to the start of the study that was believed to skew her results.  Of the 12 remaining participants, 11 completed all components of the study (rope climbs, pullups, and ruck), and 1 participant completed only the ruck portion of the study.  Of the 12 participants that were used in the results analysis, 7 were military and 5 were civilian. 

Below is the average age, height, and weight of the 12 participants:

Assessment:

All study participants completed the below assessment at the beginning and end of the training protocols:

1. Max Rep Strict Pullups

     5 min Rest

2.  Max Feet of Rope Climb in 3 minutes

      5 min Rest

3.  3-Mile Ruck for Time at 75#

Programming Protocols:

Two 3-week long programming protocols were tested:

Protocol 1:  Variable Weight Ruck + Bodyweight Pulling

Protocol 1 consisted of 3 days/week of rucking – one day each of intervals, threshold ruck, and longer aerobic ruck.  Rucks were performed at variable weight between 50-100#.  One pullup workout and one rope climb workout were performed each week using a progressive training volume protocol.  All pullup and rope climb workouts were performed at bodyweight. 

Seven (7)  of the study participants completed this protocol.

Protocol 2:  Same Weight Ruck + Loaded Pulling

Protocol 2 consisted of the same 3 days/week of rucking, but all rucks were performed at 75#.  Protocol 2 also included one pullup workout and one rope climb workout per week, but the progression started at a lower percentage to make up for the additional loading.  Pullup workouts were performed loaded at 15# and rope climbs were loaded at 25#. 

Five (5) of the study participants completed this protocol.

The full protocols used in this study can be found at the end of this article. 

 

RESULTS

Compliance with the workouts during the study was excellent.  Only 2 lab rats missed 1 training session each, and all other lab rats completed all training sessions. 

Both protocols led to improvements in all metrics, with improvements ranging from 10-31%. 

The rope climb and ruck improvements were similar between groups. 

Protocol 2 had a greater percentage improvement in max rep pullups (11% for Protocol 1 vs 19% for Protocol 2). 

The chart below shows the results.      

 

DISCUSSION

Both protocols saw the greatest percentage improvement in the rope climbs.  This is not surprising since rope climbs are a technique-based exercise and regular practice of rope climbs likely led to improved technique and confidence.  Therefore, the improvement seen in rope climbs was likely due to a combination of improved technique and increased upper body strength.

In this study, there was a greater improvement in max rep pullups when lab rats performed a loaded pullup progression vs a bodyweight progression.  This indicates that females may benefit from training pullups with load in order to maximize their upper body pulling strength. 

Both groups saw similar improvements in 3-mile ruck time at heavy load (75#) at the end of the 3-week study indicating that loading (same weight vs variable) did not have a significant effect on their results.      

 

ACTION ITEMS/MOVING FORWARD

  • Females should consider performing a progression of loaded pullups in order to improve max rep pullups.
  • 3 days/week of heavy rucking at either variable or same weight loading is effective at improving heavy rucking speed in females.

Questions/Feedback?
Email coach@mtntactical.com.

About the Author
Jaimie is a Physical Therapist and strength coach in Southern Pines, North Carolina. This study is part of her MTI Fellowship.

 

Below: Full Training Protocols

 

 

 

 


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Arete 7.27.17

Military
The CIA is Entering a Danger Zone. Here’s the Map.,Washington Post
Do Civilian Casualties Cause Counterinsurgents to Fail?, War is Boring
New Concepts in Warfare Between 2030 and 2050: The Fence of Doom – War Destroys Humans – It Doesn’t Destroy Human Nature, Small Wars Journal
The Myth of ISIS’s Strategic Brilliance, Defense One
Bringing Back the Draft, Military Times
Dad: Marine vet killed in Syria ‘had a mission’ in ISIS battle, Marine Corps Times

Homeland Security/Terrorism
Trump Visits Long Island in Wake of MS-13 Gang Arrests, NY Times
U.S. weapons main source of trade in illegal arms on the Dark Web, Homeland Security News Wire
Federal Grand Jury Indicts US Soldier On Terrorism Charges, In Homeland Security
How ISIS Nearly Stumbled On The Ingredients For A ‘Dirty Bomb’, Washington Post
Former Homeland Security chief on Russia probe: I’m worried about 2018 and 2020, CNBC

Mountain
The Torturous Touring Of America’s ‘Roads Less Traveled’, Gear Junkie
The Pre-Climb Checklist, American Alpine Institute
The Screamin’ Eagles summer training at Mammoth, Snowboard Mag
Watch: Everest Climbers’ Lives Saved by Chance Encounter, National Geographic
A Definitive Ranking of Climbing Scenes in Movies, Outside

First Responder
Feeding Courage Starves Fear, Backstep Firefighter
The Double Edged Sword of Loyalty, Firefighters Enemy
Oakland Chief: Police Won’t Help Feds Round Up Immigrants, Officer.com
Motivating Your Officers; Not Destroying Them, Officer.com
Trailer released for the movie about the Granite Mountain Hotshots, Wildfire Today

Gear
Shred the trails all day long with an E-Mountain Bike, Wired
Military Inspired Versatility for a Different Kind of Hero, Team Wendy’s New M-216 Ski Search & Rescue Helmet Is Here!, Soldier Systems
Army to Begin Fielding New Modular Handguns in November, Soldier Systems
The Gear Pacific Crest Trail Through-Hikers Can’t Live Without, Outside Online
TSA Compliant Tools: Gerber Dime Travel Vs. Leatherman Style PS, Gear Junkie
Elzetta Design Announces New Line of Lighting Systems for Ballistic Shields, Officer.com

Nutrition/Fitness
5 Tips to Prevent Gym Injuries, Men’s Journal
How Endurance Athletes Use Herbal Supplements to Get an Edge, Outside Magazine
How To Assess Your Full-Body Flexibility, Breaking Muscle
Sugary Drinks and Protein: Bad Combo, Science Daily
What Hot Dogs Do to Your Body www.time.com
The Right Way to Run on Hot Days, Men’s Journal
Bring Back That Sinuous Spine, Breaking Muscle
Sustaining a Lifetime Passion for Your Sport, Outside Magazine
Are Elite Athletes Healthy? Outside Magazine
The Dangerous Chemical You May Consume Every Day, Men’s Journal


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Q&A 7.27.17

KUDOS ON RAT 6 STRENGTH

“Rob,
Kudos to RAT 6, its given me a great boost in strength, overall performance, and confidence in moving heavy weight. All my lifts increased. Ill send you my final numbers once finished. I am very happy I have a year subscription to Military Athlete. Wishing you well from Iraq.
Thanks.”


QUESTION

Hello,
I am 56 years old, retired law enforcement special operations. I am still involved with training active duty cops.
I am in pretty good shape,
working out for an hour 5 days per week. I do a combination of bodybuilding type training and metabolic stuff I have picked up from Gym Jones out of Salt Lake.
The only limitation I have is a severely arthritic knee which prevents me from running more than about 30 yards. I am able to ruck and hike and have a fan bike at my house. I can squat and deadlift as well.
I have no desire to get ‘big as a house’ rather I would like to get strong and improve work capacity. Could you recommend one of your programs to fit the bill?
Thanks

ANSWER

I’d recommend SF45 Alpha.
I’m 49 and have been experimenting with programming for guys in our age range for some time. I was looking at the 40-55 age range, but you’re close enough.
This plan does include running and has a significant endurance focus – which will be an issue for you. You can substitute the cardio of your choice … spinning or rowing, or step ups will work. As you make the substitutions, you’ll want to use time, not distance. Assume 10 min/miles for running.
So, if the plan calls for a 5 mile run, you’ll need to do 50 minutes of cardio of your choice.
More on the plan HERE.
– Rob

QUESTION

Sir,

Based on the description of the programs on your website, and the “I’m not ready”, and “what next” option tabs, the following is a list of your programs that (I think) would take someone from no experience to an above average level of combat fitness; slowly and progressively over a 92 week period.  I haven’t trained in about 8 months (training for CFT), I am  5’11” –  198LBS, 46yrs, 30%BF.  L4/L5/S1 herniation since 2003, no surgery, dealt with through pain management, stretching (can still squat just not as heavy).

My questions are:

1) Is my reasoning correct, and the program progression sound?

2) Do you have suggestions for additions, subtractions for this list?

Thank you for time, effort, and research.

  • LE Onramp Training
  • APFT Training Plan
  • Bodyweight Foundation Training
  • Body Weight Build
  • Fat Loss Training Program
  • Military On Ramp Training
  • TLU Strength Training Plan
  • Humility
  • Big 24 v4
  • Fortitude
  • 357 Strength
  • Ultimate Work Capacity I
  • Super Squat Strength
  • Operator Ugly Train Up

Respectfully,

ANSWER

Start with the Military On-Ramp training plan and check back with me on the other side.

Also, fix your diet. HERE are our guidelines.
– Rob

QUESTION

I am in the Active Duty Air Force I just got an EOD contract to retrain and leave in roughly 8 weeks.
I’ve been through the pipeline where I failed before. We have a PAST Requirement similar to TACP and have a month long PRELIM/INDOC course where we got hammered on core, legs and cardio.

I completed this portion before, but struggled. Now I’ll be going back with some rank and responsibility, and don’t want to be a poor example to the new guys. Which program would you recommend? I have access to almost any equipment I’ll need.

Thank you!

ANSWER

I’d recommend the Ruck-Based Selection Training Plan.  This is an 8 week plan. Start now.
– Rob

QUESTION

How would you suggest running the PAST test plan if my test is in September ?

ANSWER

By my count you have 12 weeks and the USAF PAST Training Plan is a 6 week plan – which you’ll want to complete the 6 weeks directly before your assessment.
I’d recommend running the first 3 weeks of the USAF PAST plan now, doing something else for 3 weeks (Humility from our stuff), and then running the entire PAST plan directly before your assessment.
Good luck.
– Rob

QUESTION

I am currently deployed to Honduras. I have a team of 12. We have rucks, pull up bars, dip bars, Vests w/plates, a couple regular sand bags and 1 TRX system.
We just finished your body weight training program. We have learned to love some leg blasters!
What is your recommendation  for our next program?
We don’t have any specific goals in mind besides general fitness. We are open to anything.
Thank you!

ANSWER

I’d recommend Humility.
This is an awesome training plan – the first in the “Virtue” Series on our military side.
Check the required equipment for Humility – you should be set if you can wrangle some dumbbells.
– Rob

QUESTION

Sir…one ruck running competition is coming up..its 15.2 km run with 12 kg weight and a dummy rifle of 4 kg.I have 28 days to prepare.. I can do the same run of 10 km in 58 mins with same weight and 4 kg dummy circle… Sir plzz help me.give me a hard core training plan

ANSWER

I’d recommend the 4-Week Ruck Improvement Training Plan with the following modifications:
1) Do a 10 mile assessment, instead of the prescribed 5-mile.
2) Do 3 mile “Ruck Speed” intervals instead of what is prescribed.
3) Use the MTI Rucking Interval Calculator to find your 3-mile Ruck Speed interval pace.
4) Use the same load as your comp – and carry a dummy rifle or 4kg kettlebell.
Good luck.
– Rob

QUESTION

Hi Coach Rob,

     I am shipping out soon, and am deciding which training plan to do, I will be going to basic then airborne, and finally attending RASP. I have looked at the RASP training plan, but I personally feel that my greatest weakness is running, and was wondering if perhaps the ruck based section plan would be better, or if there is another plan you would recommend in addition to the RASP training plan.
PS I have been training already, and am trying to figure out a final program to do for these last 5 weeks to really bump up my fitness levels. Also i have all day to train so time is not an issue.
Thanks for the help,

ANSWER

I’d recommend the RASP I&II Training Plan. This plan includes running, focused Ranger Fitness Assessment work, rucking, ect.
Good luck! Excited for you!
– Rob

QUESTION

I am a Police Officer based in Surrey, United Kingdom.
I have come across your programing for LE and I am impressed with the carry over to the job. Unfortunately most Police Officers (who actually bother to train) that I know of, work on a bodybuilding method and perform very little movements which are beneficial to the job.
I couldn’t agree more with your ethos of training like a professional athlete as going home to your family could depend on it.
I appreciate that it is a lot to ask but would you be kind enough to send me some LE specific material which I could have a look at and incorporate into my own training and my colleagues?
With thanks,

ANSWER

Thanks for reaching out. We don’t give programming away, I’m sorry – here is some of what we do offer.
LE Patrol Specific Programming:
– Rob

QUESTION

I’m working through the APFT Improvement Plan.  The run days fall into the days we have PT formation on-post, and I usually go to the gym since it’s generally the best option for measured distances as I can just use the treadmill.  I’m curious if you suggest amping up the speed of the treadmill to compensate for the moving ground of a treadmill, or should I just stick to the same paces outlined by your running pace calculator?

ANSWER

I don’t have direct experience with this Chris, so my best guess is to try the intervals as prescribed, and if they are “easy” drop the upper limit by 15 seconds and see how that works. Keep dropping by 15 seconds or so until you find the “sweet spot” of barely surviving!
– Rob

QUESTION

Good morning I told my friend about your guys programs he was just curious what total workout program or package would help him out for a/s marsoc if he is close to a year out thank you for the help.

ANSWER

2) Greek Hero Packet – follow the plans in order.
3) MARSOC A&S Training Plan – directly before selection.
– Rob

QUESTION

I would like to get back into shape and eventually go to SFAS between school and injuries I let my fitness get to a level where I am pretty disappointed in myself anyways, time for a change. My question is would bodyweight fitness foundation or the APFT be better for someone that was once decently fit but needs to get back on the train?
Additionally, I have a small fracture in my foot that is healing. I got clearance  about three week ago from my doc to start doing exercise biking again but running will still take a little more healing before I can jump back into it.
My question is can I sub the running in these programs ( at least in the beginning ) for biking or swimming? If so what distance conversion should I use for them?
I look forward to your reply

ANSWER

I’d recommend you begin our stuff with the Military On-Ramp Training Plan.
You can sub biking for the running in the plan. When you make the conversion use time, not distance and assume you’d run 10 minute miles. So if the plan calls for a 3 mile run, assume you’d run for 30 minutes and bike instead for 30 minutes.
– Rob

QUESTION

I was hoping you could guide in the right direction of what plan to purchase. Right now I am training for a few road races, Spartan races and the Spartan Ultra Beast at Killington VT in September. My training has been very inconsistent and has mainly consisted of doing crossfit wods, some accessory work and running hills with a weighted vest. I am looking for something I can feel confident following that will help me finish the ultra beast.
Thank you,

ANSWER

I’d recommend you start our stuff with Humility.
This training plan focuses on bodyweight movements, dumbbell/sandbag work capacity, unloaded running and loaded running in a vest. This plan will focus and kickstart your training – but I’d suggest one change – double the unloaded distance running prescribed in the plan.
This plan will take you to mid-July, and I don’t have a sport-specific plan to prepare you for the event. From what I do have I’d recommend the Alpine Running Training Plan – again with a change. Replace the vertical gain sessions in the plan with the long weekend trail run prescribed for that week. At 26 miles for your event, you’ll need the volume.
– Rob

QUESTION

Morning. This weekend I summited Mt St Helens. I have been doing the Peak Bagger cycle, and recently switched to the Rainier Training Plan. I could tell a huge difference in my legs from the last mountain I was on last year. They never wore out. My question is regarding sports nutrition. I eat pretty clean throughout the week. However, I noticed myself “crashing” during the climb. I think I can attribute this to a bit too much sugar. My cycle is typically a breakfast of oatmeal, then a protein while climbing. I switched it up to protein, then carbs during. Not really a lot of fats. I still summited, but feel like I can grow in this area of the performance.What are your Mountain Athletes using while in/on the mountain? Thanks again!

ANSWER

What you’re talking about is event nutrition – and most my mountain athletes use GU or Hammer gel packets every 45 minutes or so. These make a huge difference for constant movement.
– Rob

QUESTION

Good Morning Rob,

I’m about halfway through the Military On-Ramp Training Plan, but I’m wondering if I am rucking properly. The training plan and instructional video on rucking talks about “Moderate pace” and about 15 min/mile. I have been “running” the ruck runs at about 8:30-9:00 min/mile. This pace isn’t massively difficult for me, but is it too fast? Are the rucks designed to be more hiking pace or running pace?
By the way, this is a great program. It keeps me motivated and training is exciting. I’m looking forward to jumping into the Operator sessions after I complete this plan.
Best,

ANSWER

We ruck run. You’re fine.
– Rob

QUESTION

I am a 27 year old Canadian  military reserve member who, while in the past was quite active, has developed into a sedentary lifestyle and after a year of inconsistent exercising (e.g. once or twice a week, not every week) am looking to get back into fighting shape.
I had a body composition analysis done and based on the results it said I have a BMI of 34.0 need to lose a solid 50 lbs of fat.
I have begun cleaning up my diet (eating paleo) but have a question with regards to which fitness program I should start off with.
Do you think the fat loss or body weight foundation program would be better for me?
Thank you,

ANSWER

Start off with Bodyweight Foundation.
– Rob

QUESTION

Good morning,
I have a question regarding a strength packet that I remember seeing a while back. I have been a subscriber for a while now and love your programming.
I currently work corrections and have done rat 6 and tequila concurrently with my MMA training with great results. I am extremely excited about the BJJ plan but am not going to start it for a while. The reason being I just got hired for a patrol job and will be going to the police academy sometime late July.
I have started the academy prep plan and am loving it, I am still doing MMA but have scaled down and cut out sparring so I don’t get injured for the academy.
The plan will end right about a week before I go to the academy so that is working out well. My question is for during the academy. I am not a big guy I’m 5’9 and 165 pounds I hit 215 at the end of Rat 6 on bench but when I did the Cooper I only got 185. Im assuming thats from dialing down mt strength training and doing more MMA the past few months.
While i am in the academy I will only have about 2 hours a week for MMA and was hoping to make some solid strength and size gains before hitting the streets.
I remeber seeing a package that had 3 strength plans in that for new guys to build solid strength for weight body armor, plus the strength really does make a huge difference controlling people.
It is a 18 week academy with a nice gym and I will be staying there 5 days a week. I have a nice garage gym for a 6th day if need be at home over the weekends.
What plans would you recommend doing during my time down there to focus on strength and size? I was thinking 357, ultimate meathead, and then rat 6. Or should I just work through the spirit plans? I will be doing this along with a lot of DT’S and combatives but there isnt much PT during the academy so im not concerned about over training as I’m use to doing MMA with your plans.
Let me know what your thoughts are. Thank you for all of the work you and the lab rats put in!

ANSWER

Start with Ultimate Meathead – just to be safe on the overtraining side. It is designed to build lower body strength and upper body hypertrophy.
After Ultimate Meathead start thinking about being prepared for the patrol duty – think sprinting, chassis integrity, shuttle-based work capacity etc. If you’re getting that stuff at the academy, move on to 357. If not, jump into the Spirits plans.
Excited for you!!
– Rob

QUESTION

I am a 29 yr old male from the flat lands of Indiana.  I am planning a trip to about 11000+ feet in CO this year to pursue elk.  This will be my 3rd time doing this trip so I certainly know what to expect at this point…. Lots of leg burning, sore shoulders and breathing thin thin air.

A little background on me.  I’m about 208 currently standing at 6’4″.  I’ve never been athletically gifted but have been lifting consistently for the last 6 months or so using compound barbell movements (deadlift, squat, bench, OH press) along with some assistance movements.  I do this in a garage. A gym is out of the question right now.  I do my best to go on a 2 mile walk about 3-4 days a week with my son on my back (1 yr old, 20 lbs now). Problem is in my neck of the woods you have to look to find hills so those walks are always on flat ground. But just as a baseline, I can probably do about 20 push ups without stopping and I can’t do a single strict pull up.

So this leads me to my question.  I have always used weights just because I enjoy them and feel they have helped condition my joints and tendons for the stress.  Where I seem to lack is overall athleticism and conditioning so I’m a bit panicked at the moment as September is coming quick.  I looked at both your programs and I don’t know that I’m fit enough for the 8 week program but also don’t have enough time for the longer packet offering.

I know I’m probably asking for miracles as I should have been asking this last year buttttt I’m a new father and balancing everything has been tough. So what program or perhaps a variation of your program would you recommend to a guy in my shape, with the limited calendar space before a hunt?

Thanks in advance for all your help,

ANSWER

The mountain doesn’t care about your level of athleticism, training equipment, lack of time, etc. The fitness demands of a backcountry elk hunt above 10K feet in Colo are the same for everyone – but you know this already. Time to get to work.
You’ve got about 12 weeks before August.
Do the Bodyweight Foundation training plan for 4 weeks, then switch to the Backcountry Big Game Hunting Training Plan for the 8 weeks directly before your hunt.
Good luck!
– Rob

QUESTION

Rob,

Going back for round 7 in Afghanistan in Sept. I was wondering if I could get that Afghanistan train up program. I’ve used it every trip and its been quite beneficial. In fact, I used it for selection too and found my salty old ass up front with the young guys quite often.

Thanks,

ANSWER

We gave away the Afghanistan Pre-Deployment Training Plan for years, but no longer do. HERE is the link to purchase the plan.
– Rob

QUESTION

Good afternoon :)!

So I’m a military medic and I love your programs!! Im on my last week of the “357 strength” program and I’m wondering what to do next.  A lot of people tell me I should probably do a work capacity/endurance program since I just did 6 weeks of strength.  I figured, why not ask you guys if youcould help me figure out what I should do next.  Just for reference I’m a 25 year old female and I like pretty much anything from crossfit WODs to regular or Olympic weightlifting!

Thanks in advance!!!!

ANSWER

Do Hector next. Hector is the first plan in our Greek Hero series, and concurrently trains strength, work capacity, chassis integrity, tactical speed and agility and endurance. The endurance work includes running and ruck running.
The plans in the Greek Hero Series are designed as day-to-day programming for SOF and other military athletes like yourself.
– Rob

 

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Packet Focus: Mountain Base Greek Heroine Packet

MTI’s Mountain Base programming trains climbing fitness concurrently with strength, work capacity, chassis integrity, and endurance.

By Rob Shaul

 

The Greek Heroine Packet of training plans represents the latest evolution of our Fluid Periodization to day-to-day programming for multi-sport mountain athletes.

Each of the plans were completed by the mountain “Lab Rats” at our Jackson Facility. All the plans in this series are 6 weeks long (including an assessment/unload week) and train 5-6 days/week.

This packet is designed to be completed in the gaps between sport-specific train ups for specific mountain sports seasons, adventures or events.

 

Fitness Attributes

The four Greek Heroine Plans, Helen,  Artemis, Danae, and Atalanta together represent 24 weeks of mountain directed programming, that trains 5 fitness attributes of a mountain athlete concurrently.

  • Relative Strength
  • Work Capacity
  • Climbing Fitness
  • Endurance (running, uphill hiking under load)
  • Chassis Integrity

 

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Plan Overview

 

Common Questions

What order should I complete the Plans
In the order listed above, starting with Helen.

What Equipment is needed?

  • Climbing/Bouldering Gym with a General Fitness Training Area
  • Stopwatch with repeating countdown timer

What if I miss a training day?
Ideally, you will train 5 days in a row, and take 2 full days off for rest. If for some reason miss a session,  do not skip ahead. Start again where you left off and complete the sessions in order throughout the plan.

Where do I find unfamiliar exercises?
See our Exercise Library HERE. The Run Calculator is listed as an exercise.

What about nutrition?
See our Nutritional Guidelines HERE.

What if I can’t do the whole session?
If you don’t have enough time to complete the whole session, you can split the session into two.

How do I access the plan? Pdf? Online?
Plan access is online, via username and password.

Can I print out sessions to take to the gym?
Yes – you can print a week of programming at a time.

What if I have more questions?
Email coach@mtntactical.com

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Packet Focus: Backcountry Big Game Hunting Packet

Wyatt Shaul scouts for big mule deer bucks high in the alpine.

By Rob Shaul

Gone are the days were Hunters were perceived as old, fat and out of shape.
The sport of backcountry hunting has gained lots of popularity thanks to companies such as Sitka and Under Armour which sponsor their own athletes – backcountry hunters who record their hunts with GoPro’s and stories, and sometimes, full-on films.

To us, backcountry big game hunting is one sport which bridges the mountain and tactical focus of our training specialty.

 

FITNESS ATTRIBUTES

We defined following fitness attributes:

  • elevation gain and loss under moderate loads
  • extended movements (up to 20 miles)
  • and finally, the kicker – packing out the game – super heavy load carriage – 100+ pounds over rough, broken terrain.

The Backcountry Big Game Hunting Packet consists of four plans, and 7+ months of total training that are organized so that each plan will build your fitness for the next. The purpose is to build sufficient fitness to prepare you physically and mentally for your hunt.

The current iteration of the Big Game Hunting Plan, which is the final plan in this packet, is perhaps the most demanding of all of the mountain-sport specific plans I’ve designed. It includes the focused eccentric legwork of our ski and peak bagging plans for walking downhill, leg and cardio hiking under load work in the form of thousands of step ups, intense core training, based on our latest Chassis Integrity Theory, for load carriage, and finally, long, increasing, weekend “mini-events” to prepare backcountry hunters for the fitness and mental demands they’ll face getting their game from the backcountry to the truck.

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WEEKLY SCHEDULE

The 4 plans, in the order you’ll complete them are listed below. Note the rest weeks between plans Begin the Bodyweight Foundation Plan 31 months before your hunt:

Weeks        Plan
1-6               (1) Bodyweight Foundation – Bodyweight Strength Training, Bodyweight Power Training, Endurance Training (running)
7                   Total Rest
8-14            (2)  Resilience – Gym-based Strength, Chassis Integrity, Heavy Rucking and distance running
15                 Total Rest
16-22         (3) Humility – Bodyweight Strength, loaded work capacity, IBA runs and long, unloaded runs
23                 Total Rest
24-31         (4) Backcountry Big Game Training Plan – Sport-specific endurance for uphill hiking, focused core
work, eccentric leg-strength training for hiking downhill. 

It’s very important you complete the final, Backcountry Big Game Training Plan the 8 weeks directly before the hunt.

 

COMMON QUESTIONS

What Equipment is Needed?
3 of the plans, Bodyweight Foundation, Humility and the Backcountry Big Game Hunting Program are limited equipment programs. Resilience requires a fully-equipped weight room. Click on the individual plan links above, and then the “required equipment” tab for specifics.

I live in the Mid-West, East Coast, South or somewhere else where it’s low elevation and flat as a plate. Will this packet prepare me for mountain travel?
Yes … as best we can… the kicker is elevation. The packet includes focused “mountain endurance” training for uphill movement, eccentric strength training for the downhills, core strength endurance, movement under load, etc. However, there is no magic bullet way to prepare you for the effects of elevation. Best we can do is get you as sport-specifically fit as possible when you arrive. It will take a few days for you to adjust to the thinner air in the mountains.

Does purchasing this packet mean I’m guaranteed to get my elk?
If it were only that easy. But, if you purchase this packet, complete the programming as prescribed, go on your hunt, and find you were not physically prepared, we’ll refund you, no questions asked.

More Questions? E-Mail coach@mtntactical.com

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Plan Focus: SF45 Alpha

Cody, 45, works through Thursday’s heavy In-Place lunges during SF45 Alpha.

By Rob Shaul

“SF45” is an acronym for “Strength and Fitness 45” and this programming is designed for older tactical and other high impact athletes in the 45-55 age range.

SF45 Alpha is the first of a series of 4 training plans in this collection – Bravo, Charlie and Delta are the other 3 plans in this series.All four plans can be purchased together in a packet, HERE

SF45 Alpha is a 7-week, 6 day/week training plan with an emphasis on endurance. Week 7 in the plan is an unload/re-assessment week.

This is the first version of this plan, published May 2017.

SF45 Programming has the following general characteristics:

Heavy, Low Volume Strength – think heavy barbel and 1-3 reps per set. The goal is to increase or maintain relative strength (strength per bodyweight) in the most efficient manner possible. Some SF45 cycles will feature bodyweight strength training, but none will include moderately loaded free weight strength training in the 5-12 reps per set range. This is to avoid unnecessary joint impact.

Endurance – Recreationally, most activities for athletes in this age range are outside and have a strong endurance component – biking, hunting, trail running, hiking, alpine climbing, etc. As well, for experienced athletes who’ve spent decades throwing iron around in gyms, the appeal of training inside wanes. Endurance programming includes assessment based intervals at a threshold pace, long distance intervals at an easy pace, and gym-based endurance training. This programming may include rucking and ruck running, as well as loaded step ups.

Chassis Integrity – MTI’s mid-section training methodology aims at building transferable mid-section strength and strength endurance. Four movements are emphasized: Rotation, Anti-Rotation, Total Body and Extension. Chassis Integrity can be trained in focused circuits, as well as in complementary gym-based endurance events.

Non-high Impact Work Capacity – In this age group, gone are the days of hard, intense, high impact multi-modal gym-based work capacity programming. For day to day training, the interest and need for this type of fitness is not worth the joint impact. Work capacity training is limited to lower impact gym exercises and shuttle sprints.

Deep Squat Avoidance – For our over-40 lab rats, it’s nearly impossible to do heavy back or front squats without limited joint pain. Lower body strength training in these cycles will focus on lunges, hinge lifts and bodyweight or lightly loaded complexes.

Here is the weekly schedule for SF45 Alpha:

  • Mon: Heavy Total Body Barbell Strength, Gym-Based Endurance
  • Tue: Heavy Upper Body Strength, Low-Back Focused Chassis Integrity, Shuttle Sprints
  • Wed: 6 Mile Running Assessment or 2-Mile Threshold Repeats
  • Thu: Heavy Leg Strength (lunges), Gym-Based Endurance
  • Fri: Long, Easy Run/Trail Run
  • Sat: Athletes Choice: Long, Easy Run/Trail Run or Endurance Mode of Choice

Common Questions:

Who is this plan appropriate for?
Experienced tactical and other high-impact athletes age 40-55. This plan includes olympic and functional fitness exercises and knowing your way around a weight room will easy your learning curve for the programming. 

What Equipment is Required?

  • Fully-equipped functional fitness gym including barbells/dumbells, plates, bumpers, rack, bench, plyo boxes, sandbag (40/60/80 pound)
  • Stop watch with countdown interval timer.
  • Optional – GPS running watch to make finding running distance easy

Can I see sample training?
Click HERE, then click the the “Sample Training” tab to see the entire first week of programming.

More Questions?
Email: coach@mtntactical.com

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