Q&A 9/18/15

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Question

Hi Rob,

For the National guard, before we can go to SFAS, the Guard has a process called SFRE, which is a 3 day mini selection. How would you work this into the ruck based selection program? – A

Answer
I don’t have a plan specifically for SFRE.

I’d recommend the full Ruck Based Selection Program: http://mtntactical.com/shop/ruck-based-selection-training-program/

– Rob

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Question
I am active duty Air Force crossing over to the Army to try out for Special Forces. With that said I am contacting you to see if you will be able to recommend a workout program to prepare me for Special Forces. All help would be greatly appreciated. – R

Answer
I’d recommend our Ruck Based Selection Training Plan directly before selection (http://mtntactical.com/shop/ruck-based-selection-training-program/). You’ll want to do this the 8 weeks directly before.

I’m sure your timeline, but if you’ve got more time, a great place to start out stuff with SOF in mind is Fortitude: http://mtntactical.com/shop/fortitude/

Rob
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Question
I am wrapping up the six week backpacking pre-season plan and will do my last long ruck tomorrow. I am flying to Peru on Monday but won’t start the 4-day trek until Friday morning. Do you have any training recommendations that I can incorporate from Tues – Thur since I’ll have some down time before the trek begins?

Also, the program was awesome! Tracked my progress each week and solid improvements across the board. I know that altitude response is always an x factor, but I feel pretty darn physically and mentally prepared because of your program. Thank you so much! – A

Answer
The extra rest won’t hurt you physically, but mentally often athletes feel they’ve done all this work to tune up, and then without getting right to it, mentally feel they’re slacking. This is what you’re thinking.

In Peru, I’d recommend some running – trail run if possible, but get out, first think in the morning, 45-60 minutes. Enjoy it.

Rob
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Question
I’m looking for some advice/recommendation on a training plan. I know there are several training plans available on your site, but I’m trying to narrow down the list to the right plan (or combination of plans) to optimize my fitness regime.

I am not currently targeting any specific races, peaks, or projects, but really I’m looking to get on to a solid plan.

Ultimately, I am looking for a plan that meets various needs:
– Rock and ice climber (on spare time; weekends/vacations);

– Alpine climber (on spare time; weekends/vacations);

– Trail/road runner (5-6 times a week);

– Mountain biker (3-4 times a month);

– Adventure racing (2-3 a year; none schedule before May 2016 at this time);

– Downhill skiing (2-3 days a month; not to begin before November 2015); and

– Soldier (require adequate baseline to support para and marching).

I have regular access to a great training facility that has the full array of equipment (CrossFit area, conventional weight gym, cardio/circuit area) and access to some decent trail networks in the Ottawa (Ontario, Canada) area. That being said, I am on the road for work quite a bit and find myself 1-2 weeks a month training with little to no equipment.

I am a huge fan of your training plans having worked with peers while deployed on a few different plans (high altitude climbing program, pre-season kayak program, the busy operator program, etc.). However, I’m looking for a suggestion/direction from you as to what would be the best program to tackle to hit the full array of what I do. Is it a specific program or a combination of a few?

Looking forward to your reply, – J

Answer
For your mountain pursuits, best would be a subscription to the website, and following the Mountain Base series of training sessions (Alpha, Bravo, Charlie (coming soon). The Mountain Base programming is “base” fitness for mountain athletes and aims to establish a solid level of mountain specific endurance (running, hiking under load, strength for durability, work capacity for short/intense sprints, climbing fitness, and overall durability. Here’s a description of Mountain Base Alpha (http://mtntactical.com/mountain-athlete-articles/plan-focus-mountain-base-alpha/).

However – this mountain specific base won’t prepare you for your best performance at trail running, alpine climbing, skiing, etc. To do best at any of these and other mountain-sport discipline, you’ll want to train sport-specifically just prior to the trip/season.

With a subscription, you’ll have access to our preseason rock climbing, dryland skiing, etc. plans. Ideally, you’ll move your training between the Mountain Base cycles, and these sport-specific training plans depending on the season. For example, 4-6 weeks before ski season, you’ll drop out of mountain base, and do the dryland ski cycle, then after the season starts, you’ll move back to mountain base for all-around maintenance.

Some mountain sports have specific fitness attribute’s you need to train – two examples are eccentric leg strength for alpine skiing, and grip/forearm strength, and strength endurance for ice and rock climbing. There’s no getting around training for these sport-specifically.

If you don’t want to subscribe – you can purchase Mountain Base Alpha and Bravo as stand alone plans.

All that begin said, as a soldier, your work-related fitness is paramount, and fitness for your recreation comes second. In general, military athletes need greater strength, higher load carrying capacity, and better multi-modal work capacity and sprinting ability.

Our day-to-day programming for military athletes is the Operator Sessions.

In the end, I’d recommend the Operator Sessions – with a subscription you’ll still get access to the sport-specific mountain plans – which you could drop into directly prior to seasons/trips.

– Rob
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Vince –

Congrats and thanks for the feedback!

Your experience seems shared – cadre will change things at each individual event – we’ll consider changing the program to reflect this. As these type of events get more and more competition, and customers move from one to the other, the organizers seems to vary things and create new events to keep ahead of the market. .

Thanks again.

– Rob

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Plan Feedback
FYI, last weekend I completed a GORUCK HCL after following your Heavy training plan, plus some mods, described below. I wanted to give you some feedback on the program, plus some possibly new insight into the event. 1.5 weeks before starting the program, I had completed a Challenge+Light after going through your GORUCK Challenge training program. That also went well, despite the event running very long (14hr) and being in the water for hours (SEAL cadre).

What I did:

– I followed the plan, except for last 18 mi ruck where I felt rest/recovery was more important than a few more miles. Once I was confortable going far below 15:00 for miles, I decided to up the weight rather than improving the speed. Most of the rucking was done at ~10-15# above my ruck weight at the event.

– About 2 weeks in, I decided to do the whole HCL instead of just the heavy.
– I introduced some relatively light weightlifting on tuesday mornings. A ton of light overhead presses, plus squats & deadlifts
– did a little bit of pt (burpees, more sit ups, etc) on most days during the training
– last mile of the 14mi I did with a 60# sandbag
– did an additional 2mi ruck with a 60# sandbag, on one shoulder at a time

– Maybe 2-3 “fun rucks” up a hill with my family. Those were slow.

Comments:

– The goruck heavy training program was the main factor to success. My wife followed the same program, without the lifting, and did really well during the heavy. I wasn’t easy freeing time to both do that much rucking (one had to be with the daughter), but it was a good sacrifice to get serious.

– I huff and puffed quite a bit during the running portions of the events, I think adding in some running / substituting some in for rucking would help. I did a bit of indoor rowing to develop some more endurance without banging on my knees and ankles, but wasn’t systematic with it.

– The PT test is now totally open to modification by the cadre. We had an extra burpees test (100 in 10 minutes), and the 12mi ruck was with a 3:00 standard, not 3:30 as previously. We did it as a group in 2:45, which set the stage well and put everyone in a good mood. We also almost had a pull ups test, but they couldn’t find the infrastructure in time. We also almost had a 3mi run, which I would probably have failed, see comment on running above.

For that reason, I would suggest maybe adding a bit more general PT in there, burpees and/or 8-count body builders and similar.

– Most of a heavy is carrying significantly more weight than the ruck, I would suggest incorporating a few short but heavy rucks to get used to the feeling

Alternatively, maybe just provide a little benchmark test to say “here’s where I expect you to be before you start with this program”?

Overall, I was barely sore after the whole HCL and days after, and that’s most likely thanks to you. I was able to pull my weight throughout the events, and succeed. Considering that I have always had weak knees/ankles/feet, I find this rather impressive.

Thanks again, it was a hard and appropriate program, and the hours of solo rucking definitely forced me to “get my mind right”. – V

Response
Congrats and thanks for the feedback!

Your experience seems shared – cadre will change things at each individual event – we’ll consider changing the program to reflect this. As these type of events get more and more competition, and customers move from one to the other, the organizers seems to vary things and create new events to keep ahead of the market. .

Thanks again.

Rob
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Question
I just purchased your backcountry ski training program online. Since the ski season is (unfortunately) more than 6 weeks out I am wondering if you have any recommendations to augment the 6 week program. That is, do you recommend starting with training session 1 now and then looping through the last few weeks until the season starts? Or do you have a different recommendation(s)?

Thanks for your help! I’m very stoked to start preparing for the ski season, – S

Answer
You can repeat the program if you like, but it would be pretty terrible!

Options … from our stuff I’d recommend Mountain Base Alpha (http://mtntactical.com/shop/mountain-base-alpha/).

Rob
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Question
Just a quick question on what you and your athletes use to track workouts. I’m type a through and through and like to track my training sessions, weight numbers, increases/decreases etc you get the idea. Just wondering if you had a go to strategy, app, old fashion pen and paper that you suggest for tracking with your athletes and what they are using.

Any advice is appreciated.

Loving the plan I’m on right now btw, awesome programming. – J

Answer
Pen and paper for us – as coaches, within a cycle, we’ll often use a spreadsheet for the assessments in that cycle. Coach Scott is a little more geeky than me, and has started a longitudinal database for our lab rats.

Rob
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Question
On week one of valor and so far it’s been good setting the baseline for training. I was curious what your thoughts were on how much faster you will be in a PFT compared to just a training run. I have a feeling you will be faster at the PFT but was wondering if y’all had done any research on it. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! – N

Answer
I’m not sure your question, but in general, during the actual PFT performance issues can come up – good and bad, depending upon the jeopardy.

Good – adrenaline and running with others (competition/comaradarie) can make you faster.

Bad – nerves and butterflies and performance anxiety come in to play and you perform below potential.

We’ve never done a formal study, but in our specific PFT training plans (APFT) we ensure the athletes do the actual PFT 2-3x before the real thing, specifically to get him/her accustomed to what to expect.

Rob
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Question
Sorry for the question but, I am currently using Mountain Base Alpha and could you please clarify how the Warm-up round is to be performed-i.e. should 4-rounds of each single exercise be completed prior to moving on to the next movement/exercise or complete one round of exercise then move to the second exercise and third one?
Thanks for your help. – J

Answer
Example:

Warm up:
4 Rounds
5x Lunges
5x Push ups
5x Situps
Instep Stretch

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5x Lunges, then
5x Push Ups, then
5x Sit Ups, then
Instep Stretch, then

Repeat the “Round” 3 more times.

Rob
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Question
First off, thanks for your great resources and willingness to answer questions! I apologize if this has been asked before, but couldn’t find an answer.
I’m headed to a SEAL team in a few months as a FAC and want to improve my fitness to keep up with the team. While I won’t be necessarily operating in the field with them, it can’t hurt to have a good “combat chassis”.
I have a moderate level of cardio fitness (5K in about 22:30), but have been working more on bodyweight strength and swimming.
What do you think is a good starting point and something that could be accomplished reasonably on a base gym?
Thanks in advance for your help! – T

Answer
Start with Valor: http://mtntactical.com/shop/valor/

– Rob
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Question
Long time listener, first time caller. After working with a local S&C coach who specializes in Olympic weightlifting for the specific goal of just making it through a try out just to get in to a special forces unit to get the opportunity to go through the pipeline for the better part of 6 months, I did not make the cut (holy run on sentence). I missed the initial Army APFT by 6 seconds on the 2 mile run (14:24 cut off). I am already an Airborne Ranger so I know that the capability is in me somewhere. Just having a hard time getting it back. Before I continue a little background on myself. After completing Ranger school in 09 I took up CrossFit. I was a competitive athlete (3 trips on a team to the regional level as well as numerous local competitions) up till about January of last year 2015. After 4 months of Olympic weightlifting focus I am stronger but heavier than I have ever been in my life ( 5’9, 215lbs, roughly 17% bf). Since April I have been on a SF try out regime (S&C mon, wed, fri, run tues, thurs, ruck sat). The “try outs” consist of an Army APFT by the 17-21 standard ( 58 pu, 66 su, 14:24 run) followed by pull up test (go/no go eval), then immediately into a 12 mile ruck (55lb dry). After that you get roughly 3 ours for written exams, then into a 5 hour “field problem” (smoke session). The next morning is a 5 mile run (5 in 40 with some wiggle room) into an hour smoke session. That pretty much sums up the physical events of the weekend. At the end of the day and this long drawn out email ( I apologize for taking up a lot of your time) is which program do you recommend for my problem? I can definitely hold my own on any ruck put it from of me, it’s the run that is the issue. Even after 5 months of running “semi-emphasis” little improvement was made. Thanks in advance. Let me know if there is any more information I can provide to help with your advisement.

Respectfully, – N

Answer
At 5’9″, I’d like you at 175-180#. You’re carrying too much muscle and too much strength.

If all you’re looking for is running help, do the Running Improvement Training Plan: http://mtntactical.com/shop/run-improvement-plan/

If you want comprehensive programming, start with Valor: http://mtntactical.com/shop/valor/

Then roll into the Ruck Based Selection Training Plan: http://mtntactical.com/shop/ruck-based-selection-training-program/

No extra training. Just do the prescribed sessions.

– Rob
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Question:
Love your work mate!
Just a quick question I’m hoping you can answer. I’ve been following the operator sessions for quite a while now. I am transferring from the Australian navy to army and have started to specifically target my training. I have to do army basic training prior to job training and then I may look at SF selection in the future. I have been close to selection in the past but delayed it for various reasons. I have an above average level of fitness and want to smoke all of basic plus the unit training.

I’m following the unit SASR plan with less rucking. Just rucking once a week with the cal development, run intervals, work capacity/core. Everything in this plans suits what I need minus some ruck volume. Do you recommend continuing on with this?

I may leave my current job for the army in as little as 8 weeks but won’t know for sure the date until about 4 weeks from now. Based on the other questions I see it as coming close to my “event” and time to start training specifically with cals, ruck, core and work capacity. Correct?

Thanks for your time! – D

Answer
Questions for you to answer:

(1) Does your Army Basic performance play into your ability to go to SF selection?
If so, you need to train up with a focus to smoke it. If not ….

(2) How far after Basic will it be before SF Selection?
Here many guys sign contracts with guaranteed selection course after basic, and the challenge is to keep them fit for selection as they go through basic ….If you’ve got time, then right now, just following our Operator Sessions, or day to day programming appropriate for SOF is what you should be doing. Then, just prior to selection, you want to do a focused selection program.

The one thing you need to you current programming is some basic strength work. Strength will help keep you durable.

– Rob
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Question
I have been digging the technical research you have sent out in email blasts over the last few weeks. Specifically the “Operator Sessions Updates: Green, Blue and Triphasic Training” (13 September 2015) regarding Triphasic Training and “Developing a Work Capacity Standard Part I: Power Calculations and Crossfit” (14 August 2015). I seriously geeked out on the latter when it first hit my inbox in August attempting to calculate my power output for continuous motion pushups, which is comical in retrospect.

Since then I’ve been mulling over the power outputs, eccentric, isometric and concentric contractions involved with the continuous motion pushup in the FBI’s PFT. Unlike military standards, which often have a 2 or even 3 minute pushup test with designated rest positions, the FBI test is continuous motion until failure, with no rest positions, and no time limit; as a result time is a variable where stuff begins to move much slower over the test.

The constants within the military tests are mass (bodyweight) and time (2 or 3 minutes) while one tries to increase their displacement (reps). Whereas in the FBI test, the only constant is mass (bodyweight), the displacement (reps) is directly correlated to time under tension. As time increases without a break, the concentric and eccentric contractions significantly slow down while increasingly taxing the isometric contractions involved. As a result, overall power output (total time of continuous motion) has a rate of change directly impacted by the decreased power output of each pushup as they move slower.

Needless to say, I quickly realized I do not have the physiological knowledge nor calculus skills to figure out what’s actually going on. But when I do the PFT I feel it, and it hurts, and I want it to hurt less while I do better.

I said all this because personally I have plateaued rather quickly on my pushups exclusively using the percentage-based reps scheme (30-40 percent for reps emotm for 5 min plus an all-out set) based off of my PFT results. This method principally trains and retests for displacement (reps), as opposed to time. I have gone through the 3-week cycles for pushups as defined in your FBI PFT program about 6 times now, and the last 3 tests I have achieved the same pushups results give or take 3 pushups.

So considering I lack the mathematical prowess to tackle the equations at hand, I drew from my anecdotal experience, as well as small library of material I have to come up with these hum-dingers, with the hopes of training for time, and a couple other things I “felt:”

1. The Alligator Complex

a. During the PFT, a nasty little thing occurs between the 300 and pushups that we so affectionately call “blood-pooling.” It’s the sensation where all the blood in your legs from red-lining the 300m pools in your shoulders and chest during the pushups. I have yet to recreate the same intensity or pain in training as I feel after these two events. It feels as if my chest and shoulders were blasted and about to fall off and I have 5-min to re-attach them so I can pump my arms to get me 6 painfully slow times around a track. So I was thinking, if my chest is blasted like that, I remember leg blasters burning similarly, but that’s for the legs, here comes the Alligator Complex, inspired by leg blasters, which consists of pushups, alligator pushups, burpees and clap pushups. The rep scheme I’m toying with is x, x, x, .5x. I’ve currently set it at 10 rounds of 4x pushups, 4x alligator pushups, 4x burpees and 2x clap pushups with 30 seconds of rest. I’ll work up to 10 rounds of 10x pushups, 10x alligator pushups, 10x burpees, and 5x clap pushups in the same progression you use to transition from 10 rounds of mini-leg blasters to 10 rounds of full leg blasters. When I retested my PFT yesterday with my latest gator-plex at 4x full gator and 6x half gator, my pushups remained the same but I didn’t blow out my chest or shoulders and my 1.5 mile time dropped from sub 11min to sub 10min. I danced.

2. The test for time

a. I’m playing with two models right now, both very similar. The first idea was inspired how you approach tabata calf raises, where the rest isn’t actually a rest but an isometric hold. I translated that to the pushup: 20 seconds of work, 10 seconds of plank, work up to 8 rounds of this mess. To start, I only plank the first “rest,” and actually rest during the remainder 7 rounds. Over the next 9 weeks, I’ll slowly work up to 8 rounds of work and plank. The second incorporates the same principal or “resting” in plank, however, as opposed to using the tabata time scheme, the time would be based off of how long you were continuously working to failure. Yesterday, I was able to complete 60 seconds of work. Over the course of the next 3 weeks, I would do 65/35, 70/30 and 75/25 percentages of work/plank based off of total time worked, i.e. 39/21, 42/18, and 45/15 seconds. How many rounds? I have no clue. So right now I’m testing the tabata format and I’ll circle back to this one when I can think through it better.

3. Giant friggin pushup ladder

a. Some guys at work passed me a pushup ladder which is focused on continuous motion. Its unscientific, but for now gets the job done and hurts real good:

i. 1x continuous motion to failure
2min rest
1x 2min pushups, rest in plank, reach same number from 1st set
2min rest
1x 90sec pushups, 75% 1st set, rest as needed
90sec rest
3x 60sec pushups: 1st reg, 2nd diamond, 3rd wide, rest as needed
60sec rest between each set
2x 45sec continuous motion
45 sec rest between each set
2x 30sec continuous motion, 1st set regular, 2nd set diamond

2-min of planks

So, I said all of this because your programs are top notch and I wanted to attempt to give you a critical review which may, or may not help you make your programs even better, specifically, the FBI PFT in this case. Your current program will allow someone to pass the PFT, but I don’t want to just pass it, I want to max it out, or at least max out my capabilities. – D

Answer
My guess would be to use time and progress time vs. reps. In my recollection we’ve messed around with this idea only with farmers carries.

Thanks for sharing. We’ll add this project to our list!!

Rob
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Question
I am planning on taking the PAST in about a year. I obviously can improve a lot in this amount of time. I am curious if i should start with the “PJ/CCT/CRO selection work up” or if I should first build a base with the “monthly operator sessions”. Also, if you think none of these are grest starting points then please point me to a program you think i should start with, since i have a good amount of time. I just want to say I am a wrestling and still train with my team at this time. If this helps you know where i am beginning from. Either way thanks for the programs if nothing else. They look great.

Sincerely, – A

Answer
Your wrestling now should be the primary focus of your fitness stuff. The only think you may want to add in is swimming work – these selections are swim intensive, and you’ll want to be comfortable in the water.

So now the only think I’d recommend is our Swimming Improvement Plan: http://mtntactical.com/shop/swim-improvement-plan/ – and only as long as this doesn’t impact your wrestling performance.

– Rob
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Question
I had heard you on the hunt backcountry podcast and your programs have peaked my interest. I would like to know what one I should try before the big game plan. I feel I need to work on core lungs and legs. In that order I just finished up a Colorado hunt and did ok I put in 30 miles in the last 2 days with 5k elevation gain. A little over 10 miles was with heavy pack +100lbs packing out. I was spent after those 2 days. seemed like it took a good week to fully recover. Right now I have access to a gym if needed. Just trying to get on the right path for next year.

Thank you – T

Answer
At the beginning of the off season, I like athletes to start back with some solid strength training.

I’d recommend beginning with Rat 6 Strength (http://mtntactical.com/shop/rat-6-strength/).

Follow it up with a subscription to the website, and following the Mountain Base training sessions.

Rob
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Question
Quick questions regarding training for GORUCK events:
1) Doing a challenge and light this November – what training plan do you recommend?

2) Doing a heavy, challenge and light next year (9/11) – what training plan(s) do you recommend?

S

Answers:

1) GoRuck Challenge Training Plan: http://mtntactical.com/shop/goruck-challenge-training-plan/

2) GoRuck Challenge, then immediately, the GoRuck Heavy Challenge Plan:

Rob
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Question
Quick question: I want to train for both a killer ski season (backcountry most, ideally) and a a killer ice climbing season. How do I maximize my training efforts this fall and winter to gain the most for both sports? (Background: I just finished guiding the volcanoes of the cascades for the season, haven’t been strength training though.) Thanks for all that you do! – S

Answer
Option 1: Complete the Expedition Mixed/Ice Training Plan: http://mtntactical.com/shop/expedition-mixedice-training-program/, and add in Quadzilla Complexes 2x/week: http://mtntactical.com/exercises/mnt2705-quadzilla-complex/

Option 2: Complete the Ice Climbing Pre-Season Training Plan (http://mtntactical.com/shop/icemixed-climbing-preseason-training-program/) and the Backcountry Ski Training Plan (http://mtntactical.com/shop/backcountry-ski-training-program/) concurrently. Either do 2-a-days, or alternate sessions daily (ice day 1, ski day 2, etc.)

– Rob

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Question
I saw a text about you and your training in the magazin “men’s fitness” in my summer holiday in USA.

It seems, that you are offering kind of trainings, which I have been searching for a long time.

I ski 40-50 days per season, which is quite a lot for an office (city) employee.
These winter days are my motivation to train all year long. And now I would like to boost my training whit your plans.

I would start with the 7 weeks of dryland traning in Oktobre to Christmas, followed by the in-season ski maintenance program between January and April.

Before I order your plans I would like to ask you few questions:
– what happens, if I could not train 4 days in a row, because of my business work?
– how long is a session incl. Warm up and training?
– how long do I need to get familiar with all the specific exercises and their names?
– are there possibilities to compare my results to some experienced result out of your gym?
– are you talking about kg or other measures?

Thanks a lot and best regards from Germany, Munich. – S

Answers:

1) Don’t skip ahead. Do the sessions in order – begin where you left off when you can get back to training.
2) Generally 60 minutes
3) You’ll need to look up the exercises on our exercises page at first (http://mtntactical.com/category/exercises/), but generally, after a couple weeks or less you’ll know the exercises.
4) The plan isn’t set up that way … everyone follows the same progression.
5) We use pounds – so you’ll need to convert.

– Rob
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Kudos
Quick Report: I wanted to see how the stamina program would work for a GORUCK Challenge prep plan. I had done the stamina plan twice before but not as a GRC prep. Also, I had done two GORUCK events before but hadn’t used the stamina plan as the prep. It worked beautifully though. 12+ hours of multiple short events under heavy weight left me barely sore. Not kidding. I felt like taking a leisurely jog the next day.

Details

3 weeks prior to GRC: Stamina Program (started on a Monday)

Week of GRC:
-Monday: Rest
-Tuesday: Inclined Rucking, Step-ups and Squats with a Sand Bag, Incline DB Bench Press
-Wednesday: Cycling and Abs
-Thursday: Massage & Rest
-Friday: Event
-Saturday: Marvel about how sore I’m not.

Thanks again, – S

Response
Thanks for the great note! Glad our stuff worked for you.

– Rob
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Question
Have used your programming before (Ruck based selection, afghan prep, operator sessions) and loved it. I left the Army last December and started a new civilian job, but remain as a CA officer in the reserves. My consistency with working out and programming has been all over the map since I left the Army. Now that I’m settled in my job and have more of a routine I want to get back to regular training.
Here’s what I’m thinking, one of the strength programs followed by a subscription to LEAthlete. I need to get my numbers back along with some base work capacity. I think LE workouts would be the best choice for me since I dont really have the time the operator sessions require anymore. However, I want to stay in good physical shape to leave myself in a position to transition to training for possible SMU tryouts in the future or a transition to a federal LE job. Your recommendations?

Thanks very much – M

Answer
Perfect.

With a subscription, you get access to the LE, Mountain, and Military daily sessions, as well as 30+ training plans, including Rat 6 Strength – which is where I’d tell you to start.

You can also purchase Rat 6 individually here:http://mtntactical.com/shop/rat-6-strength/

– Rob
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